In this post I have explained how to correctly calculate inverter parameters with associated stages such as battery and transformer, by calculating the matching the parameters correctly.
Introduction
Making an inverter all by yourself can be definitely lot of fun. However if the results are not satisfactory can completely spoil the whole purpose of the project.
Installing and configuring the various inverter parameter like the battery and the transformer to with the actual assembled circuit needs special care and attention for deriving optimal results from the assembly.
In this article I have explained how to calculate and match a battery and transformer wit the relevant circuit and also enlightens regarding the possible faults that might be encountered and the respective troubleshooting procedures.
The article enlightens the many newcomers with some of the important clues, which might be helpful while configuring an inverter circuit with the battery and the transformer, so that efficient and optimal results can be achieved.
Calculating Transformer and Battery Specs
While making an inverter, two calculations must be broadly taken into account, viz. the transformer and the battery ratings.
1) The transformer must be rated higher than the maximum load that is expected to be used with the inverter. For example if the intended load is 200 watts, then the transformer must be rated at minimum 300 watts. This will ensure a smooth running of the inverter and less heat generating from the transformer.
The voltage rating of the transformer must be slightly lower than the battery voltage for square wave inverters.
However, for concepts involving PWM or SPWM, it should be equal to the average voltage (x 2) applied at the gates of the MOSFETs.
This can be measured by measuring the average DC voltage applied at the gate of the MOSFETs from the oscillator stage and then multiplying it by 2. So, suppose your battery voltage is 12 V, but because of PWM your average switching voltage from the oscillator shows 3.5 V DC, that implies your transformer must be rated at 3.5 x 2 = 7V. Meaning its primary should be rated at 7-0-7 V and not 12-0-12 V.
2) And the battery Ah must be rated 10 times more than the maximum current rating of the load. For example if the battery is 12V rated and the load 200 watts, then dividing 200 with 12 gives us 16 amps. Therefore the battery Ah must be 10 times of this amp rating, that is 160 Ah. This will ensure your battery runs with a healthy 0.1C discharge rate and provides a back up of around 8 hours.
Calculating MOSFET Rating
Calculating MOSFET for an inverter is actually quite simple. One has to take into account the fact that MOSFETs are nothing but electronic switches, and must be rated just like we rate our mechanical switches. Meaning the MOSFET's voltage and current ratings must be adequately selected so that even at the maximum specified load, the MOSFET working is well within its breakdown level.
To ensure the above condition, you can refer to the datasheet of the mosfet and check the Drain-Source Voltage and the Continuous Drain Current parameters of the device, such that both these values are well above the load's maximum consumption values, or are selected with appreciable margins.
Suppose if the load is rated at 200 watts, then dividing this with the battery voltage 12V we get 16 amps. Therefore the MOSFET could be selected with voltage ratings anywhere between 24V to 36V as its Drain-Source Voltage (Vdss), and 24 amp to 30 amp as its Continuous Drain Current (Id).
Take the example of the MOSFET in the image above, here the maximum tolerable voltage Vdss of the specified MOSFET is 75V, and maximum tolerable current Id is 209 amps, when operated with proper heatsink. It means this MOSFET can be safely used for all applications where the load wattage is not more than 14000 watts.
Although in real life the load handling capacity may be even lower than this.
As a rule of thumb, make sure the Vdds x Id value is at least 30% higher than the max load wattage, and the MOSFETs are adequately heatsinked.
This takes care of the MOSFETs, and ensures a perfect working of the devices even at full load conditions, but do not forget to mount them on appropriately dimensioned heatsinks.
After procuring all the necessary components as explained above, it would be important to get them checked for compatibility with one another.
Only the battery, which is one the most crucial member, hopefully will not require any prior checking, because the printed rating and the charged voltage conditions should be sufficient to prove its reliability. It is assumed here that the condition of the battery is good and it’s relatively new and “healthy.”
Checking the transformer
The transformer, which is the most important component of the inverter, surely needs a thorough technical assessment. It may be done as follows:
The rating of the transformer can be best checked in the reverse order, i.e. by connecting its higher voltage winding to the AC mains input and checking the opposite winding for the specified outputs. If the current ratings of the lower voltage section are within the maximum limits of a regular multi-tester (DMM), then it may be checked by switching ON the above AC and connecting the meter (set at, say AC 20 Amp) across the relevant winding.
Hold the meter prods connected across the winding terminals for a couple of seconds to get the readings directly on the meter. If the reading matches with the specified transformer current, or at least is close to it, means your transformer is OK.
Lower readings would mean a bad or a wrongly rated transformer winding. The assembled circuit broadly needs to be checked for proper oscillation outputs across the bases of the power transistors or the MOSFETs.
This may be done by connecting the circuit to the battery, but without including the transformer initially. The checking should be done using some good frequency meter or if possible using an oscilloscope. If the above gadgets are not there with you, a crude testing can be performed using a pair of ordinary headphones.
Connect the headphone jack to the bases of the relevant power transistors; you should get a strong humming sound in the headphones, confirming a sound functioning of the oscillator stages.
The above confirmations should be enough to prompt you to configure all the sections together. Connect the transformer to the relevant transistor or the power devices terminals; make sure the power devices are correctly integrated with the oscillator stage.
Installing the Final Inverter Set up
Finally the battery may be connected to the power inputs of the above configuration, again do not forget to include an appropriately rated FUSE in series with the battery positive. The output of the transformer now may be attached with the specified maximum load and the power may be switched ON.
If everything’s is wired up correctly, the load should start operating at its full fledged power, if not, then something’s wrong with the circuit stage. Since the oscillator section was appropriately checked before the final installations, surely the fault may lie with the power device stage.
If the fault is associated with low power outputs, the base resistors may be tweaked for possible faults, or may be reduced by adding parallel resistors to their existing base resistors.
The results may be checked as discussed above, if the results are positive and if you find improvements in the power outputs, the resistors may be further modified as desired, until the expected power output is delivered.
However, this may lead to further heating of the devices and due care must be observed to keep them under check by either including cooling fans or increasing the heatsink dimensions.
However if the fault is accompanied with blowing of the fuse would mean a definite short circuit somewhere in the power stage.
Troubleshooting the Inverter Connections
The problem may also indicate a wrongly connected power device, a blown-of power device due to a possible shorting between the power device’s output terminals or the any of the terminals that needs to be perfectly kept aloof of each other.
Having explained a few of the above possibilities while configuring an inverter optimally, a thorough knowledge regarding electronic becomes an absolute necessity from the part of the individual who may be involved with the construction, without which the proceeding with the project may somehow get jeopardized.
Chinomso says
Thank you a lot Mr. Swagatam for all your sacrifices to Hobbyists.
I built a H-bridge inverter using an sg3524 ic as it’s oscillation generator. The system is actually a12v system and works very well on 12v 100ah battery, but burns the whole MOSFETs when the battery is paralled to 12v 200ah. Here, after winding my transformer, I got 12.7vac on the primary side, while the actual gate-source voltage of my oscillator is around 6.4v. Based on your illustration above sir, could I have violated the power rating and is your direction applicable to full bridge inverters?. Please do help me out on this path of confused. Thanks
Swagatam says
Thank you Chinomso,
I hope you measured the oscillator frequency across the gate/source of the low-side MOSFETs.
Actually this average voltage must be multiplied by 2 to get the exact transformer primary voltage rating, because the oscillator voltage is the average of both the ON and OFF periods, but we want the average value of only the ON periods. Therefore to compensate the OFF time we must multiply the average gate voltage of the low side MOSFET with two.
In your case it is 6.4 * 2 = 12.8V…which means your 12.7V transformer is perfectly suitable for the application.
Chinomso says
Thank you so much ones again Mr. Swagatam, your assistance is awesome. I actually had to double the winding on the transformer primary, making it thicker this time, and I also had to replace the MOSFET’s pull down resistors from 1k to 4k7 and guess what, the whole MOSFETs blowing up stopped. However, another issue came up. The voltage of the transformer output rose to 256volts, and each time I tried to vary the feedback to just below the 250v mark, the transformer starts to thrump like an ignited car about to takeoff. This is just about the only issue I have now. Please help again. I appreciate.
Swagatam says
No problem Chinomso,
I am always glad to help!
Are you using a bridge rectifier for the feedback loop? If yes, you can try adding a capacitor at the output DC side of the bridge rectifier, and see if that helps to calm down the inverter.
The capacitor can be a 100uF/25V capacitor.
jboy says
I want to design a pure sine wave inverter with a carrier frequency of 10khz and pwm frequency of 50hz, the battery voltage is 48v and my transformer secondary is wond for 26v for good transformer regulation. Now I want to select the mosfets and my question is do I select mosfets with vdd of 48v battery * 1.5 for mosfets not to damage or I should select mosfets with 26v transformer_voltage * 1.5
Also how do I calculate the wire size for second the load is 5000watt is it 5000/48v_battery voltage or 5000/26v_transformer voltage.
Waiting for your reply thanks.
Swagatam says
You must consider the 48V not the 26V while calculating the parameters.
Jboy says
Thanks for your reply.
I have another question which is: How do I calculate the secondary wire size of the transformer, the inverter is a pure sine wave inverter load is 5000 watt and battery is 48v I know the secondary voltage will be 26v so the secondary wire size will be 5000/48v or 5000/26v to get the secondary wire size for the pure sine wave inverter transformer, the transformer is a low frequency transformer of 50hz, iron core type.
Thanks
Swagatam says
For the wire size you may have take 26V into account, for dimensioning the wire current handling capacity.
Tebogo says
Good day Team
I will like you to help me here ..i have inverter 1200VA Mecer that is not giving output voltage and when i check my Transistors they are fine on the MOSFET Side.
What could be the main problem on this one….Thanks your help will be much appreciated
Swagatam says
Hi, did you check the whether the MOSFETs are getting the gate frequency from the oscillator stage or not?
Because if the MOSFETs don’t get a PWM frequency at their gates they won’t oscillate and won’t cause any voltage output.
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vicob says
I am having difficulties selecting MOSFET or knowing the number of MOSFETs to be parallel in my SMPS based on safe area operation.
Swagatam says
Please provide the specifications of the SMPS.
Ayodele Pelumi says
Sir,
How could I read the amps of the transformer of the lower voltage?According to the article, Will it be in series with a load?
Or parallel as it’s winding terminal?
Swagatam says
Ayodele, The load and the ammeter should be in series with the transformer supply.
marcelo says
hello sir, do you have any article of 12v source and ups with backup battery that you can recommend is for an access control project
Swagatam says
Hello Marcelo, I have a couple of UPS based articles on this website which you can refer to:
Simple Online UPS Circuit
4 Simple Uninterruptible Power Supply (UPS) Circuits Explored
Godfrey says
Dear Sir
Please sir, how can I know original lead acid battery to buy? Or which type of it is original?
2. How do I test if a lead acid battery is OK in case of buying a fairly used or used battery?
Thank you sir
Swagatam says
Hi Godfrey, you can do an online search and read the reviews to know which battery is the best and which are from a reputed brand.
It can be difficult to test a battery quickly, you will need at least some hours to discharge the battery through a circuit and then analyze its backup time and current.
https://www.homemade-circuits.com/precise-battery-capacity-tester-circuit-backup-time-tester/
Anthony says
Hello sir, that’s a very superb article you have got here, thanks to your website am now understanding many things difficult before, pls I have gone through the article and I understand what you have said but I need to ask a question pls,
After calculating the mosfet/transistor vdss…… and others how are am I to calculate the number of mosfets/ transistors needed for the the intended inverter watt, say for example am to use 16 mosfets for 1000 watts, how am I to calculate and know that am to use exactly 16 mosfets for 1k Watts.
Thanks for answering. Remain blessed
Swagatam says
Thank you Anthony, the VDDS and ID indicate the maximum tolerable power the mosfet can handle, but we need to provide a 50% margin so that the mosfet can work with normal heatsinking. The product of the VDDS and ID and 50% will determine the total wattage the mosfet can handle….you can divide the inverter wattage with this result to get the total number of mosfets required to be added in parallel
Suresh says
Hi swagatam
Really appreciate ur work,keep up gud work excellent information on inverter discrete comonents
Swagatam says
Thank you Suresh for your kind feedback!
Norv says
Hi, I am researching inverters as I would like to build one sometime soon, one thing on my mind is choosing the right transformer, I would like to buy one instead of making it myself. Your article stated that I should put a load threw the mosfet and measure the voltage before I could choose the right transformer is that correct?
Swagatam says
Hi, yes you can do that, measure the voltage across the load, or the drain/source terminals, this will be your transformers primary voltage rating
Godfrey Godfrey says
Dear sir,
please sir, in respect to checking the transformer for the specified secondary current.
1. What alternate method can be used to measure the current if AC current range on the DMM is below the value specified?
2. And again, for DMM that doesn’t have AC current test, can the secondary of the transformer be rectified with full bridge or half bridge, and then setting the DMM to DC current range to measure the current? Will the result be the same if it was to be measured using AC ammeter.
Swagatam says
Hello Godfrey, you can measure it by applying shunt resistor method. Put a known resistor low value high wattage resistor across the transformer wires, check the AC voltage across it, use the following ohms law to get the current value
I = V/R, where V = voltage reading on the meter, R = value of the resistor
For DC meter, first convert the AC to DC using bridge rectifier and repeat the above process across the output of the bridge.
Godfrey Godfrey says
Thank you very much sir. I really appreciate your time and this great offer of help.
Swagatam says
You are welcome Godfrey!
Stanley says
Please how do i know the Ah of the transformer i wind by my self. I used 19 guage copper wire
Swagatam says
You can do it by connecting an ammeter across the secondary wires of the transformer for a few seconds and note the current reading on the meter
Joseph says
Pls can I use two different kind of power mosfet in building one Inverter because I don’t have enough mosfet?…i.e irf 1010e and irf4110
Swagatam says
yes you can, just make sure their technical specs are similar,…. or the max V and I specs of the required inverter output is 50% lower than the max rating of the MOSFETs
Rakhitha says
Hi,
Thank you for the post. I am trying to make a pure sign wave inverter using SPWM generated using Arduino. And i am planning to use high frequency PWM capability of Arduino to produce 62kHz PWM signal and use that to simulate 50Hz sine wave. As a result transformer will see 62Khz pulses. In this case for best efficiency do I need to use a high frequency ferrite core transformer calculated/designed for 62KHz or a regular transformer calculated/designed for 50Hz?
Best Regards
Swagatam says
Hi, you will need a ferrite core based transformer for handling the 62kHz carrier frequency
Evans says
Hello sir swagatam, please enlighten me here; which mosfets are more efficient to use in inverters involving high voltage say from 24,36,48,60,72,96 extra??
1. Mosfets with high RDSon?
2. Mosfets with low Reason?
The reason am asking you this is that I’ve tried designing a 24v Inverter using irfz44N and irfp1404 in vain. But if I design a 12v inverter,it functions well,what might be the problem? Am using cd4047 for osciliation from one of your articles sir. Or let me know if there’s something else I need to do when it comes to Inverter with high input voltage? I have a 5000w transformer,2×200Ah batteries and I need to design a 24v/220v 5000w inveter. Look forward to hearing from you soon.
Swagatam says
Hello Evans,
Higher RDSon will cause more heat dissipation on a MOSFET and vice versa. So lower RDSon is preferable for greater efficiency.
Both the MOSFETs that you have mentioned are suitable for a 24 V inverter, however irfp1404 is better suited due to lower RDSon.
There could some other issue in your inverter, because designing a 24V inverter is as easy as designing a 12 V inverter.
For 5kva output you may have to add many of those MOSFETs in parallel, and use a 20 V transformer for a 24V battery
Evans says
Thank you for your response. From your opinion,what might be the problem? Coz the circuit I used is from your articles?
Swagatam says
Evans, Whether it is from my site or any other, the operating voltage level can never be an issue, as long as the transformer and the MOSFETs are appropriately matched.
Make sure your oscillator IC circuit gets a stabilized voltage, which doesn’t exceed its maximum tolerable limit. And the MOSFets are also protected with external reverse diodes
For a stabilized voltage circuit for the oscillator you can refer to the following article:
500 Watt Inverter Circuit with Battery Charger
Evans says
Sir my transformer is 17v
Swagatam says
then it is OK….
Evans says
Hello sir swagatam, suppose I decide to use irf064 which has an ID=110 and a vds of 55v. Now i want to build a 5kw/24v inverter and from your explanations above ,multiplying the V and I of the mosfet 55*110=6060w. For my inverter 5000/24=208A so plus 10=218A,so the number of mosfets and each side would be 218/110=2. So if I use 2 mosfets on each side is it ok? Will it run a 5000w load without overheating? Is the vds voltage of 55v ok?
Swagatam says
Hello Evans, yes that’s possible, but you will mount them on huge heatsinks with fan cooling….if you want to avoid this, then use at least 5 in parallel.
Evans says
Thanks sir for your quick response.
Swagatam says
My pleasure!
Evans mworeh says
Hello sir swagatam,what is the difference between mosfets in small package and those in large package? For example irf1405 which has a id of 169A and vds of 55V, and irf064 which has a id of 110A and vds of 55V. Now between the two which one can hold 6000W if I used 2 of them on each channel without ;
1. Overheating
2. Blowing up
Swagatam says
Evans, the 169 A has more power handling capacity than the 110 A, so it is more favorable.
Evans says
Sir swagatam,from you explanation above you have said that for concepts involving pwm/spwm that the transformer voltage has to be average the switching voltage. Now my questions are; Let’s take your example above of 7.5v for a 12v battery
If I want to make it an Inverter charger,
1. Will 7.5v charge the 12v battery to it’s maximum charge?
2. How long do you think it will take to fully charge the 12v battery?
Swagatam says
Evans, No, 7.5 v cannot be used for charging 12V…so if you want to make a single transformer inverter/charger with pwm that cannot happen. At 10% Ah, it may take 14 hours for the battery to charge
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Evans says
Hello sir swagatam,av come across this mosfet irf3713. From the datasheet it has a vds of 30v and an IDs of 260A rds 3.0 . Now my question is;
1. Can this mosfet be used for a 24v Inverter?
2. How many can I use for a 6000w/24v Inverter?
Swagatam says
Hello Evans, yes it can be used, provided the supply never exceeds 28 V, and make sure to add external diodes across D/S of the MOSFET. You can try with 3 mosfets initially, check if they get too hot with a heatsink, in that case you can add a couple of more, until the dissipation is manageable with a reasonably large heatsink
Evans says
Thank you so much for help
Osei Kwame says
sir Swagatam thanks allot
please I want you to help on this if they ok.Sir supposing I’m using a transformer from 5kva stabilizer for 4kva inverter under 24v battery.
total current will be 4000/25 = 167A sir
if 10 fet (3205) per side then current handle by each fet will be 167/20 = 8.35A because they connected parallels sir. also power handle by each fet will be 24v *8.36a = 200w is this ok
Sir can I use this transformer for 5kva inverter sir? thanks
Swagatam says
Osei, each channel will be subjected to 4000watts, therefore each FET will share 167/10 = 16.7 amps according to me, and power will be 24 x 16.7 = 400 watts
Osei Kwame says
Thank you sir or should I call you teacher
Swagatam says
It’s my pleasure Osei!
Osei Kwame says
Sir Swagatam I have followed your link for a number of weeks now and I find it interesting. sir I want you help me on this
let me use you 3kva circuit with 3 fet transistors per channel sir
if I want to use 10 on each side , what will be the current consume by each transistor (irf 3205) under 24v battery and also what will be the maximum power delivered by the inverter
thank you sir
Swagatam says
Osei, Please check the ID and VDS ratings of the mosfet through its datasheet, and multiply them to get the maximum tolerable wattage of the device. Make sure your expected power output is less than this, and the MOSFETs are mounted on heatsink.
Output power is decided by the transformer and the battery, the MOSFETs only work like switches and must be rated appropriately to handle and execute the specified amount of power.
osei kwame says
thanks for your quick response sir
Robert says
OK, thanks for your response. Am working on a 3kva inverter, how many mosfets do I use in total. Thanks
AG says
Good day sir,I have been following your post all this while and i find them motivating especially to people like me.
pls sir I need your help cocerning protecting my inverter .
and i dont really know some causes ,how can i go about it ;
some of them are ; mosfet got burnt ,unable to control the charging ,making noise that is fan make some umming noise when inverter is in use ,how do i protect my oscillator,…
Swagatam says
Hi Ag, I have covered all these topics in this website, it will be difficult for me to explain all these separately through comments, you can search the topics through the search box, you might find some help
Godson says
Hello sir Swagatam,
Thanks a lot for the article. The article didn’t cover how to accurately calculate the number of MOSFETs that will match a specific transformer and battery ratings in an inverter system. Kindly shed more light on that.
Anticipating your usual prompt response. Thanks.
Swagatam says
Hello Godson,
mosfets are nothing but electronic switches, therefore they simply need to be rated as per the transformer consumption. if the transformer primary is rated to consume say 20 amps max, the mosfets must be rated at 25 amps, that’s a little higher than the maximum consumption value.
Godson says
Hello sir Swagatam,
Thanks for the prompt reply. What I meant was that supposing I want to build a 2KVA inveter that will run on 24V battery, how do I know how many MOSFETs to use?
Swagatam says
Hi Godson,
divide 2000 with 24, this will give you the mosfet current, make sure to select 10 amps above this value for the mosfet on each channel.
voltage rating will be 10V higher than 24V that is 34V .
higher values will work, but not the lower values.
Godson says
Thanks for the reply sir.
Using the example of the 2KVA, 24V above, here is what I understood from your explanation:
2000/24 = 83.3A
83.3 + 10 = 93.3A
Using IRFP150N MOSFET which has a continuous drain current of 42A and voltage rating of 100V,
Number of MOSFETs on each channel = 93.3/42 = 2
Is this calculation correct sir?
Where does the voltage rating that you mentioned above come in to this calculation?
Swagatam says
According to me that’s correct!!
the voltage rating has to be simply 10V higher than the battery voltage…
make sure to add good heatsinks, which is always compulsory for inverter devices.
Unknown says
please sir how can i know the number of mosfet for a 2000w inverter
Swagatam says
multiply the V and I of the mosfet and divide 2000 with this result
SANTANU says
https://www.homemade-circuits.com/2013/04/how-to-modify-square-wave-inverter-into.html?m=1
The above link is the link mentioned in my previous post. Please reply soon.
Regards,
Santanu
Swagatam says
yes, 1N4148 can be used instead of 1N4007, that would make no difference in the performance of the system.
SANTANU says
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In the above given link there are 2 nos. of 1n4007 diodes for pwm injection. I need to know that if i use 1n4148 diodes in place of the 1n4007 diodes as shown in one of your post, does it make any difference? I think no. Please rectify me if i am wrong. Link given in next post.
Regards,
Santanu
Swagatam says
1N4148 can be used instead of 1N4007, that would make no difference in the performance of the system.
SANTANU says
Sir,
I would try to upload an image.
I have built the bjt amv circuit and its running fine. I am using a 12-0-12v 6amp transformer and 12v 7.2ah battery.when i run a normal cfl or bulb it runs smoothly but when i try to run a table fan possibly of 100watt the fan run slowly and makes an awkward noise. I think increasing the battery amp would solve the problem. I am thinking of adding 1 more 12v7.2ah battery in parallel. Am i wright sir????
Swagatam says
A 100 watt load could be too big for a 7AH battery, so yes the battery AH will need to be increased appropriately for the fan and the circuit to work optimally.
SANTANU says
Sir,
Thank you for your advice.
Sir now a days i see the emergency lights having cfl in place of led, are those cfl 6v cfl? If yes then can you design a circuit to drive the cfl with a 6v battery also having a battery charger in it?
Regarfs, santanu
Swagatam says
Santanu, actually it should be the opposite, today CFLs are getting replaced with LEDs, can you show me the image it would help to understand the specs.
SANTANU says
Sir,
If i use a bc547 astable multivibrator to generate square wave and apply high frequency pwm to it as shown in one of your post (link given below).
https://www.homemade-circuits.com/2013/04/how-to-modify-square-wave-inverter-into.html?m=1
I know that sg3525 is a pwm generating ic and is much more efficient in matching the rms value that a bjt orient pwm inverter, am i right Sir, thanks for your valuable advice on 555 ic, i made the circuit and applied pwm to the 555 square wave inverter, i found it very difficult to match the rms value exact to 230 but when i made the bjt oriented AMV circuit and applied the AMV chopper circuit which delivers high frequency pwm it was much easier to adjust the rms to 230 and the mosfet are not getting too much hot. What you suggest me to do should i go for sg3525 or for the bjt amv one.
regards,
Santanu
Swagatam says
Satanu, it's not about efficiency, it's about having a totem pole output, meaning two outputs with push pull actions. a SG3525, or a 4047 or a 4017 ICs will have two separate outputs for the BJTs/mosfets, which makes it easier to add the PWMs at the respective channels.
The transistor AMV circuit is also good since it too has two separate channels for the PWM injection, you can go ahead with it.
SANTANU says
Sir,
Can i use ne555 to generate sqaure wave and then fed the output from pin no#3 to pin no#2 of another 555 ic wired in monostable mode to generate pwm pulse, and then fed the pwm output from pin no#3 of 555 ic via bjt buffer stage to power mosfet and then to a ct 12-0-12 transformer to achieve 230v ac modified sine wave.
Swagatam says
I can't suggest a PWM for an IC 555 inverter, you have to either use a 4017/555 based, or SG3525, or a 4047 IC based inveter circuit for making a PWM compatible unit. The BJT stage will need to be implemented as given below:
1.bp.blogspot.com/-NgqlieM8TX8/U7zL0tGH6qI/AAAAAAAAHgE/WCKLVG9pVVs/s1600/mosfet+transistor+driver+circuit.png
I hope this link opens for you.
SANTANU says
I went through the bjt buffer stage provieed in the link provided by you. I want to know that can i use the bjt buffer circuit to an bjt amv circuit including a bjt amv chopper pwm circuit. Link given below.
https://www.homemade-circuits.com/2013/04/how-to-modify-square-wave-inverter-into.html?m=1
Swagatam says
yes you can use it with this circuit
SANTANU says
Sir,
I have copied the link numerous times but it says the page you are looking in the blog does not exist.
Swagatam says
…in my computer it opens instantly, I don't know the reason why it's not opening in your PC
SANTANU says
Sir,
The link you provided is not working.
The square wave portion of the cicuit (having ne555 and mosfet)which i provided to you is working properly. I need to increase its wattage to 500 watt and thats why i added 2 more mosfets in each side. Initially i have built the circuit using single mosfet in each side.
My query is that will increasing the number of mosfet will increase the wattage and if so how should i connect the mosfets and how do i connect the pwm diodes to it to get the output.
If i am wrong please correct me and advice me what to do.
Regards,
Santanu
Swagatam says
Check it again, it surely works.
high frequency PWM can be added to the mosfets only after adding a BJT buffer stage before the mosfets as shown in the previous link
https://www.homemade-circuits.com/2013/08/homemade-100va-to-1000va-grid-tie.html
otherwise your mosfets can become hot….
you can try the design that you have made, if it works for you, it'll be great
Swagatam says
first make a smaller version, if it works smoothly only then you may think of upgrading it to higher watts.
SANTANU says
https://www.homemade-circuits.com/2013/04/how-to-modify-square-wave-inverter-into.html?m=1
The link you provided doesnt exist.
can i use the circuit you provided in the above link and modify it into a 500 watt inverter by adding 2 more mosfets in each channel.
Regards,
Santanu
Swagatam says
You might have not copied the link correctly, it definitely exists.
Yes you can use the above link PWM stage
SANTANU says
Sir ,
I have uploaded the image. Below is the link of the same.
s13.postimg.org/zczkg85w7/20140915_160747_1.jpg
Kindly provide me the necessary correction because i have douts in the connection of the PWM diodes to the mosfet.
Regards,
Santanu
Swagatam says
Santanu, a 555 IC is not recommended for driving push pull mosfet stage, because it is not equipped with a dead time feature, you must use an SG3525 or TL 494 type of IC for driving the mosfet stage.
THe PWM will need to be connected at the bases of additional driver BJTs, as shown in the LAST diagram of this article:
https://www.homemade-circuits.com/2013/08/homemade-100va-to-1000va-grid-tie.html
SANTANU says
Sorry Sir,
I misread your last answer, n thats why i had asked you the foolish question. One more thing can i upload an pwm inverter circuit diagram whose pwm part has been made according to one of your post but i have some douts in its output waveform & i dont have a oscilloscope to check the waveform. Could you kindly help me out. I need it badly for my home.
Regards,
Santanu
Swagatam says
You can upload it in any image hosting site and provide the link to me, I'll check the issues you are having.
SANTANU says
Sir,
Do you mean 24-0-24v centre tap or 12-0-12v centre tap transformer?
Swagatam says
You mentioned 12-0-12V, so it is for 12-0-12V/20amps… that's equal to 0-24V/20amps
SANTANU says
Hello Sir,
If i use a 12-0-12v 20 amp transformer, will it give 24v X 20amp = 480va from the transformer?
Swagatam says
hello santanu, yes it will give 24V/20amp
eshkariel tapiador says
Good day Swagatam,
Do I need to pair this article with the other article entitled "How to calculate and match solar panel,etc…" ?
Swagatam says
Good day Eshkariel,
the two articles deal with different parameters of the same subject, so they cannot be exactly compared.
Chandrajith.P says
Hello Sir,
If I use 12v battery,
Max load I need is 25w,
Transformer output = 62.5w,
Transformer current = 62.5/12 = 5.2083A => Used 5A
Battery current = (5.2083/4)+5 = 1.302075+5 = 6.3A => Used 10A,
Now my question is,
What is the maximum backup time in hour(if maximum load connected is 25w)?
Chandrajith
Swagatam says
Helo Chandrajith,
25 watt would consume 25/12 = 2amps, so dividing 10AH with 2 = 5hrs
Therefore ideally the back up time should be 5hrs, however practically it could be less than 4 hours.