In this post I have explained how to build an innovative inverter circuit with a single transformer that works both as an inverter and a battery charger transformer, I have explained the details from the following discussion.
The Circuit Objective
Though you may find many inverters having an integral battery charger, the section will mostly employ a separate transformer for implementing it.
In the following post I have explained a unique design which utilizes the inverter transformer for power inverting as well as for charging the battery.
The circuit diagram below shows a design where a single power transformer is used for inverting purpose as well as for charging the battery when mains is present.
The good thing about the circuit is that the transformer doesn't employ separate winding for this, rather works with the same input winding and reverts DC to the battery with the help of a few DPDT relays.
The circuit can be understood with the following points:
How the Circuit Functions
The inverter section can be easiy recognized in the diagram, R1 to R6, including the T1 and T2 forms a general astable multivibrator circuit for producing the required 50 or 60 Hz pulses.
These pulses drive the mosfets alternately which in turn saturate the transformer by switching the battery voltage in it.
The secondary of the transformer generates the corresponding magnitude of AC which is finally used for operating the connected appliances.
The above configuration suggests an normal or ordinary inverter operation.
By adding a couple of DPDT relays in the above discussed operation, we can force the circuit to charge the battery in the prsence of an AC mains source.
The coils of the two relays are powered through a capacitive low current compact power supply, involving C6, C5, D1----D5.
The above circuit is connected to a mains AC source, this source is also connected to RL1 poles.
The second relay RL2 is wired up with input winding of the transformer.
In the absence of mains AC, the position of the relay contacts are in the N/C as shown in the figure.
In this position the mosfets get linked with the transformer input winding, and the battery with the circuit so that the inverter starts oscillating and the output appliances gets the AC power from the battery.
In the presence of mains AC the relay coils instantly get the required DC power and the contacts activate.
RL1 activates and connects the mains input to the transformer, the appliances also get connected with the mains AC in the process.
Also due to the action of RL2 the mosfets get disconnected from the transformer, while the the lower tap connects with D6.
Since the center is already connected to battery positive, the inclusion of D6 provides a half wave rectified voltage to the battery, which is effectively filtered by C3 so that the battery is able to get the required sufficient charging voltage.
The above charging process continues until mains is present, so it should be monitored manually. When mains fails, the action reverts into inverting mode without interrupting the appliance operations and by using a single transformer for both the operations.
C4 makes sure that RL1 always activates a shade later than RL2 for safety reasons.
CAUTION: THIS CIRCUIT IS DEFINITELY NOT RECOMMENDED FOR THE NEW HOBBYISTS, IT'S SUITABLE ONLY FOR THE EXPERTS. IF YOU ARE A NOVICE AND INTERESTED TO TRY THIS.... BUILD IT AT YOUR OWN RISK.
Parts List
- R1, R2 = 27K,
- R3, R4, R5, R6 = 470 Ohms,
- C1,C2 = 0.47uF/100V metallized
- T1, T2 = BC547,
- T3, T4 = any 30V, 10amp mosfet, N-channel.
- C3 = 47000uF/25V
- C4 = 220uF/25v
- C5 = 47uF/100v
- C6 = 105/400V
- R7 = 1M
- D1---D5 = 1N4007
- D6 = 1N5402
- RL1, RL2 = DPDT, 400 OHMS, 12V, 7 AMPS/220V
- Transformer = 12-0-12V, current as per requirement.
For only inverter design please refer to this ARTICLE
Using a 2-Wire Transformer
If you do not want to use a center tap transformer for the inverter, then you can use the following P-channel and N-channel MOSFET H-bridge inverter module for getting an identical single transformer inverter/charger results:
Za Ki says
If battery 48v..transformer need ?
Swagatam says
for the above design it should be 0-48V
Evans says
Syed Asim Ali zaidi, please I would like to have that diagram for charging and cut off,thanks. email: evansmworeh@gmail.com.
Adeleke Abiola Benjamin says
Hello Mr. Swagatam,
Please can I use this circiut for 24volts and at the same time use it for TV and other equipment in the house.
Swagatam says
Hello Mr. Adelke,
No 24V cannot be used for this design since it employs a 12-0-12V transformer.
Adeleke Abiola Benjamin says
Hi Mr. Swagatam, very grateful for your response.
Please, if I want to convert it to 24volts is it possible and if YES, what are things that I needed to change from the circuit.
Thanks.
Swagatam says
Hi Mr. Adelke, for that you might need a 20-0-20 transformer and a 48V battery
Evans says
Hello sir swagatam,av got a two wire transformer rated 24v/240v. It’s a huge transformer that can deliver a maximum of 6000w. Do you mind sending me a circuit of a pure sinewave Inverter using this two wire transformer that can run a refrigerator or a freezer and a tube light? Also help me answer the following questions
1. Can this type of a transformer work on a 24v?
2. How many irf1404 should I use to achieve the 6000W?
3.How can I make it a single transformer inverter charger being able to indicate
a) when battery full
b) when float charging
c) when battery low
d) when there’s rise in mosfet temperature
? Help me with a circuit diagram if you have any sir,I’ll really appreciate.
Swagatam says
Hello Evans,
Please refer to the last concept presented in the following article:
https://www.homemade-circuits.com/7-simple-inverter-circuits/
you can add more mosfets in the same proportion to increase its power output.
For battery indications you may have to use an external op amp circuit
evans mworeh says
sir swagatam,thanks for the response. But I still need assistance. the circuit you refered me to uses both P and N channel mosfets,now my main issue is that I wanted to use all N channel mosfets. so the diagram you gave wont apply,what do you think will happen,do you have a circuit for that?
Or rather you can suggest to me a P channel mosfet i can use that has the same specs as irf 1404???
Again for the battery monitor everything sounds okay but the circuit doesnt offer float charging and temperature indicator which might also involve a FAN??
Finally sir u have not advised me if i can use the transformer for a 24v inverter with a 24v battery bearing in mind that the transformer output is 24v ac??
Thanks and I look forward to hear from you.
Swagatam says
Evans, using N channel is very difficult to configure, you can search for “full bridge inverter” through the search box, and you will be able to find a few designs
For mosfet specs you will have to some research by comparing VDs and ID and RDson. p channel mosfets have more resistance than n channel since their RDson or the resistance is much higher than n channel. You must Add p channel mosfets in parallel until their RDson value becomes almost equal to the lower n channel mpsfets
float charge is nothing but very low current feed to the battery which you can do simply by connecting the supply permanently through a high value resistor depending on the battery Ah.
Battery temperature will rise only if you provide over-current to the battery, and want to charge the battery faster than normal, which is not recommended. Temperature will not rise if you use a current that’s 10% of the battery Ah value.
24V transformer will produce 24 V AC and 33 V after full wave rectification.
evans mworeh says
thanks sir swagatam,one final question is that for a h bridge system ,is 24v transformer suitable for sinewave 24v inverter?
Swagatam says
For 24V battery, the trafo must e approximately 18v, or if the trafo is 24v, the battery must be approximately 36v
evans mworeh says
thanks sir swagatam,one final question is that for a h bridge system ,is 24v transformer suitable for sinewave 24v inverter?
Swagatam says
If pwm control is not used then matching battery/trafo is OK, if pwm is used then trafo voltage must be lower than battery voltage
Evans says
Thank you very much sir swagatam. Please sir advise me, which one is the best sine wave inverter?
1. Inverter with pwm or,
2. Inverter without?.
Also I have done a rewinding to my transformer and now it’s reading 16.5ac. is the voltage okay for an inverter with pwm?
Swagatam says
Evans, 16.5V transformer cannot be used with a 12V battery, please read the following post for more info:
https://www.homemade-circuits.com/how-to-calculate-and-match-inverter/
PWM inverter is better than an ordinary square wave.
Evans says
Hello sir swagatam,am seeking info from you if 16.5v can charge 2*12v batteries.
1. If yes then how long will it take to charge the 2 batteries?.
2. If know ,then how can I boost the voltage to be able to cherge the 24v batteries?.
Swagatam says
You will need an auto cut off system then you can use 16V input for charging 12 V batteries
Evans says
Sorry sir,I think I didn’t put everything right for your understanding. I was asking if a transformer with 16.5v can charge 24v battery which are 2*12v connected in series?. Also how long will this take to be fully charged?
Again sir,you haven’t advised me concerning pwm inverters and those without pwm.
Swagatam says
Evans, 16.5 V after rectification will give 16.5 x 1.41 = 23 V which is not sufficient to charge a 24 V battery. It must be at least 28 v
PWM is better since it allows waveform control.
Evans says
Also sir swagatam,if u have an auto cutoff circuit for 24v, please help me with one. Sir in my last question,I was seeking to know if a transformer with an output of 16.5v can be used for an inverter with pwm. Thanks in advance.
Swagatam says
For auto cut off you can refer to the following concept:
Op amp Battery Charger Circuit with Auto Cut Off
you can use the transformer for pwm inverter with a 24 V battery
Swagatam says
sorry, the battery would need to be 24V not 48V….and the 470 ohms will need to be changed to 1K, while the 27k resistor calculated appropriately
Adeleke Abiola Benjamin says
Thank you Mr. Swagatam, very grateful for impacting others with your idea and knowledge.
Thank you.
Swagatam says
You are most welcome Adeleke
Mohammed Ajmal says
What is the output power of this ckt?
How much watts can it handle?
Swagatam says
it will depnd on th trafo, battery and mosfet ratings
Mohammed Ajmal says
Can it handle a table fan motor load of 25-30 watts , if I use 12v 7ah battery and 12-0-12 ,1 A transformer
Swagatam says
you will need a 9-0-9/5amp transformer, and a 12V 7AH battery for operating your fan properly
arun kp says
Ya i found it..
can i use IRF540 or IRFZ44 for T3 and T4
of the circuit on the link???
Swagatam says
yes you can…
arun kp says
sir,
could you help me for making a simple inverter for lighting a 18w CFL ?
i have a 12V 9ah battery and 12-0-12 3A transformer.
Hope you may help me
Arun
Swagatam says
arun, you can try the following circuit:
https://www.homemade-circuits.com/2012/09/mini-50-watt-mosfet-inverter-circuit.html
Janak Joshi says
hello…Mr.Swagatam
I want to make 1200w inverter but problem is in charging circuit I can't use relay for it because it take 100a in inverter mode and 10 in charging mode
I use 4xIRFZ44N mosfet
can I use MOSFET reverse diode in charging mode ????
Swagatam says
hello janak, if you are referring to the above circuit, it cannot be used without relays….it would work only with the relays connected in the indicated manner
Muhammad Nafees says
C3 is 4700uf or 47000uf?
Swagatam says
yes, C3 should be 4700uF……. and not 47000uF
Waqar Ahmed says
hi Sir Swagatam
i dont know much more about electronics basics, But i want to make this ups for my DSL Router and Laptop Charger , I understand the circuit, but DPDT Relay is confusing me ,
I have found that DPDT Relay have 6 points , 2 for coil, 2 for NC and 2 for Com,
Can you Please mention that how to use relay in this circuit and what is treatment for coil points,
If you Please explain the working of R1 and R2 while marking on a picture of DPDT so that i may knwo which points of relay i have to use and which of them are to be leave as it is ,
Please help me ,
Thanks
Swagatam says
Hi Waqar,
I don't think you would require such a complex inverter circuit for a modem, charger application, you can try the following design:
https://www.homemade-circuits.com/2013/03/simple-dc-ups-circuit-for-modemrouter.html
Kolley says
Thank you sir
I will try that.
Kolley says
Thanks for the quick responds
The output voltage before those load is close to 240 but after connecting the load it drop to 220, which I think should be sufficient but still it won't power fan and clipper
Swagatam says
220V is more than sufficient, that's weird, can't diagnose without seeing it practically…just check if both the power transistors are conducting uniformly, you can do it by connecting car headlight lamps in series with the transformer taps which are linked with the power devices….
Kolley says
Sir pls answer me here,I can't find the link to the previous comment again on my computer
Or if u can provide the link for me I will be happy
Thanks
Swagatam says
Hi Kolley,
It could be due to insufficient battery power or trafo wattage….measure the output voltage of the inverter when you connect those loads, if you find the voltage dropping would confirm an inadequate battery current or transformer wattage.
Kolley says
Sir thanks so much for your help so far,
Please help me, I build an inverter using IC SG3524 the inverter is working fine on some appliances but won't work on some like small or big fan, small hair clipper and a desktop computer, pls what can I do to make it work on all appliances?
Regards
Swagatam says
I think I have already answered this in your previous comment…..
Banimz says
Thanks so much sir…
I was eventually able to get the required current and voltage to drive my relays by using four of the C6 capacitors in parallel…..
Its all working now.. Thanks a lot sir
Swagatam says
It's my pleasure Banimz.
Kolley says
Thanks so much
Pls can u tell me hw u calculate it, I mean the formula you used to cal the wattage of the mosfets.
Thanks
Swagatam says
multiply its voltage rating and amp rating and reduce it to 25% for safety.
Banimz says
Sir, the circuit is now working well…. Except for one minor issue…. My relay coils are 90 ohms instead of 400…… Thus, the current this circuit is producing is too low to power both of them together….. …..
How can I increase the current in this circuit?? Should I reduce the 1M resistor??? Or something else? Eagerly awaiting your response.. Thanks a lot
Swagatam says
You can use an adapter as stated in the previous comment…
Banimz says
Okay, thanks…. So now I've gotten a 105/400V capacitor for C6….. And I've finished constructing the circuit…
Now I noticed something. If I connect power to the circuit before connecting a relay ,,,, the relay will trigger…
But if I connect the relay before turning on the power,,, the relay won't respond….. Upon testing, I discovered that just about 5V gets to the relay if it is connected before the power turns on…. Almost as if its acting as overload on the circuit……
What could be the cause of this and how can I rectify the problem??
Oh, also, both relays don't trigger at the same time,, whether power is connected beforehand or not….. Only one works at a time,,,, if I connect one and it triggers,, the other won't trigger……
Eagerly awaiting your response…
Thanks a lot for everything
Swagatam says
The relays that you have are not of good quality, they might be having a very low resistance coil, in that case you should think of using a 12V AC/DC adapter instead of the C6 power supply.
The connections will be identical, the 12V from the adapter will connect with the relay coils including D5, C4….
D1—D4 and C2 may be removed.
The input of the adapter will need to be connected across the points indicated "mains input"
Kolley says
Thanks so much for the quick respond
The mosfet voltage is vdss 200v and 33A
Regards
Swagatam says
3 mosets on each channel would do.
but first you should try with single fets and try to accomplish a minimum 300 watt output
Banimz says
Is the capacitor C6 a very crucial part of the circuit? Or can I leave it out?
Swagatam says
without C6 the relays will not operate.
Banimz says
Thanks a lot….
Speaking of that capacitor…. I can't find a ceramic capacitor of 1uf anywhere near… But I do have an electrolytic capacitor of 2.2uf….
Will this affect the circuit???
I'm talking about C6…
Swagatam says
C6 is a 105/400V PPC capacitor, it's abundantly and easily available in the market.
Kolley says
Pls, how many mosfet of irfp 250 did I need to combine on my inverter to give 1000wat
Regards
Swagatam says
Pls specify the voltage/amp specs of the mosfet, it will help me to calculate the parameters.
Banimz says
Sir, thanks a lot for your work here..
There's just one thing I'm a bit confused about in this circuit..
220VAC enters the bridge Rectifier from the mains input,, 220VDC comes out…. But the relays are rated for 12VDC
I'd like to know which of the components in the circuit does the job of limiting the 220VDC to the 12VDC required by the relay coils…. Thanks
Swagatam says
Banimz, the capacitor output has very low current content therefore the 300V DC will automatically drop and adjust to the relay coil voltage.
no external limiting agent is required for this
siddique s says
I have a China inverter and a12v battery charger plz give me some circuit or understood me that if light is gone then automatically my battery give me back up and if light comes again then start battery charge automatically
I hope u understand my question
Swagatam says
you can try the following circuit for implementing the required automatic changeovers:
https://www.homemade-circuits.com/2014/06/how-to-convert-inverter-to-ups.html
SREE says
Hi
No, the center tap is OK, because there is a continuity between both ends.
Swagatam says
Hi, that's impossible, if the individual winding are showing 12V (from center to out), the outer taps will show the sum of the two winding.
something may not be correct with your meter or measuring procedure.
make sure the meter is selected in the AC range.
you may also check the continuity of the winding using the diode range in the meter.
Swagatam says
….another issue could be the internal winding polarity of the trafo, which could be incorrectly wound.
Swagatam says
may be the center taps are split, join the two center taps together you will then see 24V across the outer taps
sadananda naik says
Hi,
This question is not related to the post. Pls reply, I recently purchased a 12-0-12 transformer, and as I measured the V between both ends,it shows 0 V ( not 24V) and centre tap to each end it shows 12 V each. So what type winding is used in it?
sadananda naik says
the relays are 12V , in Fig. it is directly connected to mains, pls explain
Swagatam says
the right hand side contacts are connected with mains, the coils are connected via C6
hamza siddiqui says
Dear Swagatam ,
I had a home inverter which i was using for charging my car battery. One day by mistake i left battery charging wires on floor ,after that i see no voltage in battery charging wires. I checked the main Ac fuse of inverter ,it is ok but one warning sticker is there on inverter that avoid shorting of charging wires other wise its DC fuse will blow . Kindly give some information on indian make inverters DC fuse location . Inverter make is Reliable . It has only one PCB on charging side supply is going to charging wires through heat sink having 4 MODFET each side.
Swagatam says
Dear Hamza,
I am sorry, it'll be difficult to provide a proper suggestion regarding this since the configuration may be different for different inverters and I haven't yet opened the brand that you have mentioned.
However a fuse in any inverter will be always in series with the battery line and also could be with the output AC line, you can investigate these two positions, I am sure you would easily locate a few across these lines.
Kolley says
Hello sir, I just finished testing the circuit,am having two problem,1.the mosfet get hot immediately I connect to d battery power and the wire that come from transformer spark to the extent of getting burnt when I connect it to + side of d battery.2 the is turns on and off repeatedly when I connect it to AC supply pls what can I do to rectify these problems.thanks. Pls a quick reply will be appreciated
Swagatam says
Kolley, you have surely done something terribly wrong with the connections which I cannot diagnose from here.
remove the relays and make the inverter separately first, as given in this article:
https://www.homemade-circuits.com/2012/09/mini-50-watt-mosfet-inverter-circuit.html
use a separate transformer for charging the battery, the above circuit is not suitable for newcomers.
Kolley says
Hi Swagatam, thanks for the he'll so far. Pls which capacitor can I use instead of C1,C2,C3 and C6 am unable to get those capacitors here. Thanks
Swagatam says
Hi Kolley,
the capacitor values cannot be changed, so you'll have to use as suggested.
the ones which are polarized need to be electrolytic while the others metallized polyester type.
please note that this project is not for the newbies and requires expert knowledge in the field…the circuit has the potentials of causing fire hazard and explosion if not done correctly.
Kolley says
Thanks
Kolley says
Hi sir, I'm unable to lay me hand on DPDT type relay, can I use 4 SPDT relay instead of DPDT relay, pls quick reply will be appreciated, thanks
Swagatam says
Hi kolley, yes that will also do.
Kolley says
Thanks, try to DPDT type Relay
Kolley says
Sir, tanks for the post
Pls I don't get how to connect RL2 to the two mosfet since one Relay is specified for the two I can only connection one successfully. Pls help explain
Swagatam says
RL2 could be a DPDT type relay having two sets of contacts but a single coil controlling both the contacts simultaneously
Agbadu Sesugh says
hello Swagatam,
I interested in this circuit diagram but being novice, I'm finding difficult to understand the connect basically the operation of dpdt relay.
how many relays are required in this circuit diagram and how do I connect it pls
Thanks
Swagatam says
Hello Agbadu,
If you are new in the field please do not try this circuit, it's strictly for the experts.
2nos DPDT relays are used in this circuit.
Agbadu Sesugh says
but pls sir can you explain the charging section relay connection for me
also can this circuit be converted to 2.5kva, if yes how?
Thanks
Swagatam says
I have already explained it in the article, if you have a specific doubt you can ask it.
if the above basic model is confirmed then it can be modified for 2kva also.
ifeanyi anthony nwaobasi says
If the relay fails, won't it be dangerous to the inverter?
Swagatam says
yes it could be dangerous, we can include a safety fuse for that in the circuit
Rishikesh says
Hellow sir, how did you calculate the value of resistors and capacitors incorporating the AMV stage of two.coupled transistors. I have to place available and suitable components there
Swagatam says
Hello Rishikesh,
you can use the following formula
f = 1/1.4CR. where C = C1 = C2, and R = R1 = R2
R will be be in OHMs and C in FARADS
Prithviraj singh says
Sir i think it is possible to solve the issue by any of these,,,,,,,,
What about using a descriminator circuit to distinguish the sinewave from the square wave( which is produced by the inverter ) and actuating the relay only on sine wave, i.e, during mains is present.
Another way i think, is to slightly make a change to the existing frequency of square wave ( which is 50 Hz ) and thereby identifying the power on condition by counting frequency of the incoming signal to the relay coil fed.
But i don't know how this will take effect or will be effective and also don't know how to arrange these modifications. ….. So can you please help me
Swagatam says
I don't think that would help, in that case when the mains comes back it will first clash with the inverter AC and cause undesirable things to happen, a fire, a blown fuse etc. because once the the inverter AC gets into the wall socket it's bound to mix with the mains AC unless a DPDT is employed for isolating the respective ACs manually
Prithviraj singh says
Thank you Sir for replying me fast. Now i want to know whether any modification can be done to the present structure to suit my need or can you suggest any other design for me. I know i am disturbing you a lot. But what to do, i willn't get a better sleep if the problem is kept unsolved….
I am not at all interested in connecting appliances directly to inverter terminal out, because it will cause discomfort in turning a particular device on at a room
Swagatam says
I am sorry Prithviraj, there's no possible way out with the above circuit We can consider a manual option using DPDT switch for the changeovers.
Prithviraj singh says
Hai sir it is again prithviraj speaking…..
A serious doubt is now disturbing me….
As per your suggestion, the inverter o/p after successful testing can be connected directly to the ac wall outlet. But in this inverter schematics, the relay coils are actuated by the ac mains. So if i am gonna follow my strategy, will the relay actuate on getting supply during inverter operation and continously turn ON and OFF ?????
Swagatam says
Hi Prithviraj,
You are right, the above inverer cannot be inserted in the wall socket, because the relays would start vibrating ON/OFF due to the particular configuration employed in the circuit.
Venkitesh krishna says
Hai sir,
Can i ask you something……
What modification to be done to the present circuit if i am using high current transformer ??
A series current limiting resistor alone will not do this purpose i think. What extra things to be added to the oscillation section to prevent ir from accidental damage due to high current flow. Also i want to know the necessary changes to be made on relay wiring also. Please try to REPLY MY ALL QUESTIONS SIR
Swagatam says
Hi Venkitesh,
I'll try to find some appropriate solution and update it soon.
Adeleke Abiola Benjamin says
Hi Swag,
is it possible to use transformer with 6v – 0 – 6v and if yes what will be the output of it?
Thanks.
Swagatam says
Hi Adeleke,
it would work with a 6V battery…output would be equal to the output rating of the transformer, if it's 220v then it would generate 220V
Adeleke Abiola Benjamin says
Thank you so much for this post. I will like to give you feed back after I complete the work and I will also prefer to know about circuit diagram.
Kindly, let me ask this question.
1. Is it possible to use this circuit with 24volts battery without any damage to the cell of the circuit?
Swagatam says
Yes, 24V can be used, provided the transformer and the relays are also rated at 24V.
Ramsreevasanth says
Another doubt too sir,
If i am using battery rated below 100 Ah along with the current limiting circuit , will it be possible for the inverter to run maximum load that i am expecting with ?
Swagatam says
As mentioned in the previous comment, the series resistor with D6 will not interfere with inverter power outputs, it will work with the specified full capacity
Ramsreevasanth says
Dear sir,
Can you please give a model current limiting circuit to fullfill my need ? Can i have it to be used prior to the rectification section ? Thereby i can avoid using high ampere diodes there. that is why
Ramsreevasanth says
What modification you mean sir ? How can i modify this circuit to charge a 60 Ah battery bank effectively ? Can i use your one of previous post on ' 3 stage smart battery charger for 12 V ' with this.circuit ? What modifications to be done sir ?
Swagatam says
a simpler approach would be to add a calculated current limiting resistor in series with D6
Syed Asim Ali Zaidi says
Hey check out this. I added regulation to your circuit:
imgur.com/gallery/A7gED
Swagatam says
thanks, that's great!!
Ramsreevasanth says
Very nice circuit sir.
Can i use a 300 W transformer in this circuit ? How much high will be the currents in both terminals ? Can i use the formula P= IV for its calculation. If i am doing so i will get maximum current
In primary : 1.304 A and
In secondary : 25 A…….. Is that will happen ?
If so, that diode (IN5402) used in Charging section sufficient to overcome this high amperage ?
What about the diodes at the primary if i am using the inverter to be run on a 300 W load. Reply me soon plz……. Sorry for the bad english…
Swagatam says
Thanks Ramsree,
You can use P = IV, 25amps is right but that might be too high for the battery, because as per rules the ideal charging current should be 1/10th of batery AH, so we may have to upgrade the circuit with an additional current limiter circuit and also some modification in the relay wiring…..
Syed Asim Ali Zaidi says
Hey Dear, Did you add current limitation adjustments to the above circuit ever. Let me know. I think the design is wonderful. So we should work on it. Kindly share the link if you already posted about adding a limiter to this circuit.
Swagatam says
current limitation for battery charging??
it could be done through a series LM338 IC configured in the current limiting mode
Arun Dev says
Sir that was not enough….. I need a better suggestion…….
My transformer is a locally made one. No markings ( even no separate colors for wires ) are there. The only thing that i could see that some set of the terminal wires are thicker than other set. From basic calculations of transformer design, i think the wires to bear large current are of secondary ( 300 W/ 12V ) and they have to be thick enough than the primary. Am i right ? If not please correct me…..
I am in a little bit confusion that how to connect the neutral and earth lines of ac mains into the transformer if it has 5 primary terminals as i calculated….. Please help me sir… Can you please suggest the exact connection schematics…..
Since it is an ac transformer, i willn't be able to measure the tap voltages exactly without a brige type rectifiers. Taking each tap voltage by changing the polarities supplied to the rectifier will be very time consuming..
I couldn't upload the images of the transformer…. SO PLZ HELP ME
Swagatam says
you won't need a bridge rectifier at each tap for checking, you can do it with your meter on AC 220V range.
you can also check the taps by measuring their resistances…the one which gives the highest resistance can be assumed to be the mains input winding, connect a 100 watt bulb in series which testing with mains for avoiding possible hazards.
Arun Dev says
Sorry for disturbing you again sir. But what to do…. I have to be completely free of doubts before going for the design….. This time i am also coming with another doubt which may feel silly to you, please dn' t neglect it since i am not having deep knowledge in Electronics, but i like it.
I have a 300 W 12 V transformer having 4 thick windings at primary and 5 at secondary. I know it is a multi-tap one. But don't know how to wire them to suit for the single transformer inverter design.. Please help me……
How can i link the images with the comments in this blog ?
Swagatam says
You can connect the 220V wires to mains and measure the tap voltages with a multimeter, in this way you would be able to figure out the tap values.
Swagatam says
you can upload the images on any free image hosting site and provide me the link.
Arun Dev says
DEar sir,
Can i use a 10 A relay instead of the 7 A one used here
What precaution should be taken in order to safeguard the entire circuit before applying the ac mains to transformer's primary ?
And one more doubt sir
What does the connection (which seems like inductor coil )in the upper circuit means ? I realize that these are the connections across two relay pins and the upper circuit is the power feeding circuit for the relays. But i can't understand the 2 pins that i specified here. Please help me sir. I am not at all familiar with relays. Hoping your reply very soon sir……
Swagatam says
Dear Arun,
Use a 100 watt bulb in series with one of the input mains wires for safety.
The inductors are the relay coils, a relay cannot be activated unless its coils are energized therefore these coils are supplied through the capacitive power supply shown at the upper section of the diagram.
Swagatam says
….you may refer to this post for knowing more about relays:
https://www.homemade-circuits.com/2012/01/how-to-understand-and-use-relay-in.html
Swagatam says
Acquiring 24V from 12V is difficult and is not recommended, because the transformer can become hot.
Wattage rating can be controlled by controlling the battery current through some circuit stage.